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Transcript 6/8/05
Hosted by George Schutt
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06/8/05
18:58:12 George Logs in
06/8/05 18:58:29 George: Hello Greg
06/8/05 18:58:38 Greg_S: evenin george
06/8/05 19:00:30 George: Another slow one?
06/8/05 19:00:30 Greg_S: I hope a few more
people show up ;)
06/8/05 19:00:34 Greg_S: looks like it
06/8/05 19:00:48 George: Last night turned
out ok
06/8/05 19:01:11 George: Hope the clown does
not return
06/8/05 19:01:23 Greg_S: yes that was a bit
annoying
06/8/05 19:01:30 Greg_S: kids will be kids
06/8/05 19:01:46 George: That boy came in
from the funny farm
06/8/05 19:02:00 Doug Logs in
06/8/05 19:02:03 Greg_S: typical kid online..
they get brave and silly behind the computer
screen
06/8/05 19:02:05 Greg_S: hi doug
06/8/05 19:02:13 George: Hi Doug
06/8/05 19:02:39 Doug: Hello all.
06/8/05 19:02:50 George: What is new tonight
Doug
06/8/05 19:02:51 Wade_O Logs in
06/8/05 19:02:56 Greg_S: dewd
06/8/05 19:03:08 Wade_O: dewd.
06/8/05 19:03:09 George: Wade I just got out
of jail again
06/8/05 19:03:14 Greg_S: lol
06/8/05 19:03:17 Wade_O: No book still?
06/8/05 19:03:36 George: I believe my post
man is reading it
06/8/05 19:03:42 Doug: A whole lot of water
George.
06/8/05 19:03:54 George: Again
06/8/05 19:04:05 Wade_O: Wow. Maybe yours
went book rate.
06/8/05 19:04:22 Doug: Inch & a half in
one hr.
06/8/05 19:04:45 George: Send some our way.We
are dry
06/8/05 19:04:45 Greg_S: time to build that
ark, doug
06/8/05 19:05:04 George: He is on the mountain
06/8/05 19:05:11 Doug: Wade, the more I read,
the better I like the Book.
06/8/05 19:05:43 Wade_O: Wow. Thanks Doug.
06/8/05 19:07:40 Doug: Banded four more Doves
today. I'm ready to split them up.
06/8/05 19:07:42 George: Are you still getting
calls for the book?
06/8/05 19:08:10 George: Doug you are popping
them like popcorn
06/8/05 19:08:22 Greg_S: I've been putting
wooden eggs under mine now
06/8/05 19:08:42 Wade_O: Not lately George.
I think most sales will come from wholesale
orders to the ADA, Stromberg's and such. Any
word from Denny?
06/8/05 19:08:57 George: Not yet
06/8/05 19:09:41 George: I will have to check
with him.How many did you send him
06/8/05 19:09:57 Doug: I should have some
nice ones to show this fall. Even if they
aren't winners, ther something for people
to look at.
06/8/05 19:10:13 George: That is what counts
06/8/05 19:10:18 Greg_S: I need to start planning
for that too, Doug
06/8/05 19:10:37 Wade_O: Just the one he ordered.
I have 50 boxed up and ready to go though.
06/8/05 19:11:13 George: He was suppose to
order one for each board member to check out
06/8/05 19:11:32 Wade_O: Nope, he never did
that.
06/8/05 19:11:34 George: It was approved to
dothat
06/8/05 19:11:42 Wade_O: Maybe he just thought
he would pass one around.
06/8/05 19:12:03 George: I will checkinto
it
06/8/05 19:12:56 George: By the time he passes
it around it will be worn out
06/8/05 19:13:27 Wade_O: I'm sorry you haven't
gotten yours yet. Hopefully any day.
06/8/05 19:13:54 George: These knots on my
head are getting larger
06/8/05 19:14:00 Wade_O: lol
06/8/05 19:14:04 Greg_S: his mailman will
be glad when it does arrive
06/8/05 19:14:16 Doug: Do you get mail in
jail George.
06/8/05 19:14:24 George: I can't stand to
many more of these whippings
06/8/05 19:14:25 Brenda Logs in
06/8/05 19:14:36 Greg_S: hi brenda
06/8/05 19:14:37 George: No mail in jail
06/8/05 19:14:43 Doug: I'll have to check
with Tony.
06/8/05 19:14:46 Wade_O: Well, I have to run
on the nightly roundup. G'night all.
06/8/05 19:14:49 Brenda: hi
06/8/05 19:15:00 Brenda: bye
06/8/05 19:15:04 George: Talk to u llater
06/8/05 19:15:14 Wade_O Logs Out
06/8/05 19:15:19 George: Did you fine Tony?
06/8/05 19:15:28 Doug: NO.
06/8/05 19:15:47 George: He may be in the
Knowville jail
06/8/05 19:16:00 George: Knoxville
06/8/05 19:16:02 Brenda: what are we talking
about? who's in jail?
06/8/05 19:16:17 George: Hi Brenda
06/8/05 19:16:27 Brenda: hi george
06/8/05 19:16:31 George: How is NC tonight
06/8/05 19:16:38 Brenda: warm
06/8/05 19:16:39 Doug: Just some one we can't
find.
06/8/05 19:16:43 Brenda: err, hot and humid
06/8/05 19:16:58 George: Doug's dove buddy
06/8/05 19:17:21 Brenda: ahh
06/8/05 19:17:43 George: He joined the ADA
and the Tn club and no one has seen him since
06/8/05 19:17:52 Greg_S: lol
06/8/05 19:18:08 Brenda: what's a tn club?
tennessee?
06/8/05 19:18:20 Doug: I heard from Ray this
after noon George, his Doves a producing well.
06/8/05 19:18:23 George: Tn pigeon and dove
club
06/8/05 19:18:46 Brenda: oh
06/8/05 19:18:48 George: I need to talk to
him about the NC show
06/8/05 19:19:02 Brenda: i can't wait to go
to that
06/8/05 19:19:10 Doug: Did it get sanctioned.
06/8/05 19:19:17 George: Yes
06/8/05 19:19:45 Doug: Great, that ones close
to home.
06/8/05 19:20:14 George: We had a pretty good
time at it
06/8/05 19:20:38 Doug: Hopefully bigger this
year.
06/8/05 19:20:50 Brenda: where in asheville
is it? is it near the biltmore?
06/8/05 19:21:03 George: Greg is apricot orange
and ivory cross
06/8/05 19:21:28 Doug: We had some great looking
Doves there last year, I' sure we'll have
a bigger turn out this year.
06/8/05 19:21:36 George: Brenda it is at a
high school
06/8/05 19:21:52 Greg_S: Apricot is Ivory
+ Tangerine
06/8/05 19:22:03 Ashley Logs in
06/8/05 19:22:18 George: I must have hatched
two tangerines then
06/8/05 19:22:34 Greg_S: hi Ashley
06/8/05 19:22:38 Doug: Hello Ashley.
06/8/05 19:22:41 George: They are light like
a orange
06/8/05 19:22:53 Brenda: hi ashley
06/8/05 19:22:55 Ashley: hi guys
06/8/05 19:23:12 Greg_S: you can usually tell
the Tangerine when the pinfeathers start growing,
they are pretty dark
06/8/05 19:23:14 George: Of course they are
still in the nest so they will change
06/8/05 19:23:25 Doug: Are they speckled on
the wing like Apricot?
06/8/05 19:23:58 George: These are feathered
out good.They are lighter
06/8/05 19:24:23 George: No they are solid
head and all
06/8/05 19:24:32 Doug: My pairing with Apricot
male & Champagne hen are producing Apricots.
06/8/05 19:25:01 Doug: Kinda spotted coloring
on the wings.
06/8/05 19:25:11 Greg_S: Apricot and Champagne
are the same mutations
06/8/05 19:25:20 Greg_S: so it makes sense
they would produce Apricot
06/8/05 19:25:24 George: These arn't speckled
06/8/05 19:25:58 Doug: But the Champagne is
smooth color on the wings & also real
light color.
06/8/05 19:26:24 George: I have a extra ivory
hen and apricot male so I will try them
06/8/05 19:26:26 Greg_S: yes.. its kind of
like VN and Ash... same mutations, but they
appear differently
06/8/05 19:26:43 Greg_S: You'll get about
1/2 Ivory and 1/2 Apricot babies from them,
George
06/8/05 19:27:03 Greg_S: assuming they dont
carry rosy or something
06/8/05 19:27:10 George: I just don't want
the ring on the apricot
06/8/05 19:27:15 Doug: Thats great to know
Greg.
06/8/05 19:27:58 Doug: Thanks.
06/8/05 19:28:27 George: I don't think they
do carry the rosy
06/8/05 19:28:29 Greg_S: from the pics I like
Champagne better than Apricot.. I've yet to
see them in person
06/8/05 19:29:02 George: I had some and they
look like a bleached out apricot
06/8/05 19:29:43 Greg_S: I have a Light Frosty
and Fawn pair producing some nice Light Frosty
babies, george
06/8/05 19:29:53 Doug: You got it George.
You look real close to see the color.
06/8/05 19:30:27 Doug: Which is the male Greg.
06/8/05 19:30:37 Greg_S: the male is the Light
Frosty
06/8/05 19:30:49 George: So far I am not getting
anything but dark frosty
06/8/05 19:31:23 Greg_S: what pairs do you
have? I figured it best to pair a Fawn with
a Light frosty
06/8/05 19:32:15 George: ONe pair is light
frosty to bulleye
06/8/05 19:32:31 Greg_S: which is the male?
06/8/05 19:32:38 George: Another is two light
frosty
06/8/05 19:32:59 Greg_S: the 2 light frosty
should only produce fawn or light frosty
06/8/05 19:33:00 George: Male is the light
06/8/05 19:33:35 Greg_S: ok in that all the
babies should be fawn or light frosty, but
all the males will carry white, and all babies
will carry pied
06/8/05 19:34:05 Greg_S: A Light frosty male
who carries white should be a nice color..
they tend to be lighter
06/8/05 19:34:29 Brenda: do you look at a
chart, or is all this information in your
head??!!
06/8/05 19:34:33 George: I have hatched one
light and it has a white tail
06/8/05 19:34:39 Greg_S: all in my head at
this point ;)
06/8/05 19:34:52 Brenda: now THAT's impressive!
06/8/05 19:34:55 Greg_S: its a matter of repetition
;)
06/8/05 19:35:14 Doug: And younger age.
06/8/05 19:35:27 Greg_S: haha doug
06/8/05 19:36:04 Greg_S: took me awhile to
get the hang of it, especially the sex linked
colors... wild, fawn, white
06/8/05 19:36:31 Brenda: how long have you
been doing the dove thing?
06/8/05 19:36:35 Greg_S: pigeons are way more
complicated....
06/8/05 19:36:42 Greg_S: I've had RN's for
about 3 years now
06/8/05 19:36:49 Doug: I'm going to call Dr
m. Greg
06/8/05 19:37:20 Doug: I' trying to write
some of this down.
06/8/05 19:37:27 Brenda: i would have guessed
more. i've only had them a year, but not for
breeding, so i don't pay to much attention
to all that
06/8/05 19:37:37 Greg_S: the breeding chart
on the IDS site is most helpful
06/8/05 19:37:58 Greg_S: it gives the results
of a lot of different combinations of pairs
06/8/05 19:38:06 George: I am wanting to see
the ringneck from the Netherlands
06/8/05 19:38:25 George: Or some of his pictures
06/8/05 19:38:28 Greg_S: I need to ask James
about his new contact.. would be nice to get
some birds from over there
06/8/05 19:38:30 Doug: What colors are they
06/8/05 19:38:37 Greg_S: George, I have a
bunch of pics from Hein
06/8/05 19:38:47 Brenda: i love the sites
that have LOTS of pictures to show what all
the colors are that you all talk about. it
helps to identify what we have
06/8/05 19:39:03 Greg_S: they have a mutation
they call "Gray"... its kind of
like a frosty, but its a recessive mutation
06/8/05 19:39:10 George: Iam in need for pictures
for the quilt we are making
06/8/05 19:39:22 Greg_S: also one called Grizzle...
it adds interesting speckled features to darker
colors
06/8/05 19:40:48 Ashley: cool
06/8/05 19:40:53 George: Greg if you have
any picture you can share email them to me
06/8/05 19:41:25 Greg_S: I sent you the link,
george
06/8/05 19:41:32 George: OK
06/8/05 19:42:03 George: I just need some
I can transfer
06/8/05 19:42:48 Brenda: does anyone know
of a site that might list what flowers are
poisonous to doves?
06/8/05 19:43:10 Doug: I'm framing Dove pic's
for my comp. room.
06/8/05 19:43:11 George: Ids did have something
on this
06/8/05 19:43:35 Brenda: i'll search that
site then, i didn't recall that....
06/8/05 19:43:40 George: How many do you have
06/8/05 19:44:14 Brenda: how many doves do
i have?
06/8/05 19:44:32 Brenda: 7
06/8/05 19:44:51 George: Brebda I saw a list
that gave all of them but don't remember which
website it was on.It could be IDS
06/8/05 19:45:17 Brenda: i'll search - thanks
06/8/05 19:45:56 George: You may have to click
on his links then go from there to it
06/8/05 19:46:16 Brenda: ok, i'll check around
now
06/8/05 19:46:27 George: Doug have you got
the wall filled yet?
06/8/05 19:47:14 Doug: I have approc.two dozen
pic's so far. Afew from you.
06/8/05 19:47:40 Greg_S: Brenda, I think I
saw it on the IDS tips page
06/8/05 19:47:46 George: That is a good start.That
will go a long way
06/8/05 19:48:00 Brenda: yeah, i found a toxic
plant section
06/8/05 19:48:10 Greg_S: george you are welcome
to use any of my pics on my webshots page
06/8/05 19:48:20 George: Ok
06/8/05 19:48:27 Greg_S: I know petunias and
marigolds are fine
06/8/05 19:48:42 Brenda: was wondering about
roses and baby's breath and such
06/8/05 19:48:49 Brenda: for the wedding
06/8/05 19:49:11 Doug: You getting Married?
06/8/05 19:49:37 Brenda: no, not me, but going
to a wedding and displaying 2 doves for her
06/8/05 19:49:57 Doug: Great.
06/8/05 19:50:10 George: They should look
good
06/8/05 19:50:12 Anthony Logs in
06/8/05 19:50:23 Brenda: wouldn't that be
funny if i DID get married, and didn't have
my own doves there?!
06/8/05 19:50:25 Ashley: hi anthony
06/8/05 19:50:27 George: Hi Anthony
06/8/05 19:50:31 Brenda: hi anthony
06/8/05 19:50:43 Anthony: hi George!
06/8/05 19:50:57 Anthony: Ashley,Brenda HEHEH
06/8/05 19:51:06 Doug: Hi Anthony.
06/8/05 19:51:41 Doug: Whats on your agenda
tonight Anthony?
06/8/05 19:52:14 Anthony: What do you mean?
06/8/05 19:52:53 Anthony: does anyone raise
pigeons?
06/8/05 19:53:01 Doug: What questions might
you have.
06/8/05 19:53:13 Doug: Yes, I do.
06/8/05 19:53:26 Anthony: what breeds?
06/8/05 19:53:29 George: Brenda I was at Kathy
Hildreth funeral.She had 2 white ringneck
doves,also two whit diamonds doves
06/8/05 19:53:45 Doug: Where you from Anthony?
06/8/05 19:53:51 Anthony: Texas you?
06/8/05 19:54:00 George: They were very pretty
06/8/05 19:54:18 Brenda: sounds nice george
- i didn't even think of funerals having doves
displayed. they have pigeons releases, so
why not?
06/8/05 19:54:27 Doug: Tn. I have V.F. OGO'S.
06/8/05 19:54:45 Anthony: what are V.F?
06/8/05 19:55:06 George: She also had the
white pigeons that were released
06/8/05 19:55:09 Greg_S: Brenda, roses are
fine, not sure about babies breath
06/8/05 19:55:25 Greg_S: VF = valencian Figurita
06/8/05 19:55:47 Brenda: ok. i'll check into
all they want to use, before the cage gets
decorated. thanks
06/8/05 19:55:48 Anthony: I have Chinese Owls,
Star-Tail Volgas, and African Owls, and I
am looking for Holle Croppers!
06/8/05 19:56:04 Doug: Valencian Figurita
is a small spanish pigeon.
06/8/05 19:56:15 Anthony: oh ok Figuritas
I should of know that!
06/8/05 19:56:27 Anthony: do you have any
figs. for sale/trade?
06/8/05 19:56:30 JPire Logs in
06/8/05 19:56:36 Greg_S: hi john
06/8/05 19:56:49 JPire: evening folks, whats
up
06/8/05 19:57:00 George: Evening John
06/8/05 19:57:12 Doug: Anthony, for sale only,
not trade. Have tomany birds now.
06/8/05 19:57:27 George: We are just running
our mouths
06/8/05 19:57:28 Doug: Hi John.
06/8/05 19:57:28 Anthony: thats fine how much
are you asking for them?
06/8/05 19:57:36 Ashley: hi john
06/8/05 19:57:37 Anthony: what is your personal
e-mail address?
06/8/05 19:58:05 JPire: group, have a question
06/8/05 19:58:11 Doug: dr2lofts@netscape.net
< Dr2Lofts >
06/8/05 19:58:22 George: Go ahead John
06/8/05 19:58:41 JPire: in the BEW ,if anyone
breeds them have you looked at the hatchlings
06/8/05 19:59:00 Ashley: ok
06/8/05 19:59:00 Ashley: ok
06/8/05 19:59:03 George: What are we looking
for
06/8/05 19:59:18 JPire: I am assuming that
since they are a pied they wil have a dark
eye
06/8/05 19:59:28 JPire: or wil it be red a
sin a white
06/8/05 19:59:31 George: Correct
06/8/05 20:00:00 Anthony: Hey Doug I just
sent you an e-mail!
06/8/05 20:00:20 JPire: & could the pair
of BEW throw just a white youngster
06/8/05 20:00:28 Doug: I'll get it shortly
Anthony.
06/8/05 20:00:29 George: I have a pair on
eggs now.I can check when they hatch
06/8/05 20:00:38 Anthony: Ok thats good
06/8/05 20:01:06 Anthony: does anyone know
where I can find Holle Cropper Pigeons or
African Owls?
06/8/05 20:01:09 JPire: ok, mine just laid
& I wil have ot foster them
06/8/05 20:01:22 George: I have two white
hens that the breeder said were out of frosty
06/8/05 20:01:50 George: They do not have
a bar under the tail
06/8/05 20:01:59 JPire: I have gotten white
from frosty
06/8/05 20:02:12 JPire: 1 albino & one
normal white
06/8/05 20:02:32 JPire: possible a snwo white
06/8/05 20:02:38 George: I havn't checked
the eyes at the early age
06/8/05 20:02:54 Anthony: Doug what other
birds do you raise?
06/8/05 20:03:03 George: These whites have
normal eyes
06/8/05 20:03:23 JPire: orange color or wild
type colro
06/8/05 20:03:34 Doug: I'll get your e-mail
shortly.
06/8/05 20:03:43 George: Normal like a white
06/8/05 20:03:47 Anthony: thats fine!
06/8/05 20:04:06 JPire: teh snow white has
a red/brown as in a frosty - a bit darker
then wild type
06/8/05 20:04:25 George: these have the orange
06/8/05 20:04:36 JPire: is teh tail bar real
faint -
06/8/05 20:04:46 George: No
06/8/05 20:05:05 JPire: my last white the
under tail bar is barely visible, the bird
is only 3 montsh old though
06/8/05 20:05:06 George: No tail bar what
so ever
06/8/05 20:05:18 Anthony: Does anyone know
of a store online that sells big parrot cages?
06/8/05 20:05:19 JPire: and on the outer two
fathers only
06/8/05 20:05:43 Greg_S: how big, anthony?
06/8/05 20:05:47 Greg_S: there are quite a
few places
06/8/05 20:05:50 JPire: Anthony, check the
IDS site sale page & click on the Pets
warehouse link - they do
06/8/05 20:06:06 JPire: feathers, sorry
06/8/05 20:06:14 Anthony: well big enough
for my Quaker can run around in!
06/8/05 20:06:19 Greg_S: http://www.countryfeathers.net
is good
06/8/05 20:06:22 JPire: they have all sizes
of parrot cages
06/8/05 20:06:23 Greg_S: also you can find
them on ebay
06/8/05 20:06:38 Anthony: oh ok thanks i never
thought of that!
06/8/05 20:06:45 George: It does not have
the two feathers
06/8/05 20:06:55 Greg_S: I found a new place
that has a website and local store that I
like http://www.birdsupplynh.com
06/8/05 20:07:39 JPire: might check with John
F - it may be a mimic snow white
06/8/05 20:07:57 JPire: I have not checked
with him on the iris color yet
06/8/05 20:07:57 Anthony: thanks Greg S.
06/8/05 20:08:12 George: I think he did say
something about one the other day
06/8/05 20:08:40 George: Let me know what
he says
06/8/05 20:08:44 JPire: I think I raised my
first Silver Ivory
06/8/05 20:08:48 JPire: sur ewill
06/8/05 20:09:23 JPire: it is getting white
head & breast & a silver grey on the
wing shields
06/8/05 20:09:36 George: I think i may have
one also.I have a ivory male mated to a albino
hens
06/8/05 20:10:20 JPire: if anyone has an albino
- any sex let me know. John Fowler is looking
for one
06/8/05 20:10:23 George: It may turn into
a dark ivory
06/8/05 20:11:01 George: Bill Branche has
osme
06/8/05 20:11:06 George: some
06/8/05 20:11:12 JPire: got to run, debbie
wants to go get a "burger" for supper,
Debbie says HI George
06/8/05 20:11:21 JPire: take care & see
ya'l later
06/8/05 20:11:21 Greg_S: bye john
06/8/05 20:11:28 Anthony Disconnects
06/8/05 20:11:30 JPire Logs Out
06/8/05 20:11:32 Ashley: bye
06/8/05 20:12:18 Anthony Logs in
06/8/05 20:12:28 George: i like Burgers too
06/8/05 20:12:35 Doug: Quite an interesting
chat, i've got to run. Good night folks.
06/8/05 20:12:42 Greg_S: night doug
06/8/05 20:12:49 George: Talk to you Doug
06/8/05 20:12:51 Anthony: sorry guys my aol
kicked me off!
06/8/05 20:13:01 Doug Logs Out
06/8/05 20:13:07 Greg_S: thats why I call
it AOH*ll :)
06/8/05 20:13:12 George: Aol is good at that
06/8/05 20:13:28 Anthony: yeah but it is better
than anything else!
06/8/05 20:13:42 Greg_S: Anthony, try: http://stores.ebay.com/Pet-Cages-Etc_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm
06/8/05 20:13:49 George: I'll have to disagree
on that
06/8/05 20:13:51 Greg_S: they have a 'store'
on ebay full of cages
06/8/05 20:13:54 Anthony: ok
06/8/05 20:14:04 Greg_S: George... was going
to ask you a question
06/8/05 20:14:07 Greg_S: regarding NYBS
06/8/05 20:14:14 Anthony: George how could
you disagree
06/8/05 20:14:15 George: Ok
06/8/05 20:14:32 George: Because i have cable
06/8/05 20:14:36 Greg_S: what all do we need
to bring to care for our birds... do they
provide feed and/or cage cups? anything else
we should know
06/8/05 20:14:43 Anthony: aol gives you a
buddy list to see whos on and a whole alot
of other stuff
06/8/05 20:15:22 George: Greg they furnish
water and feed.They have the cups
06/8/05 20:15:46 Greg_S: ok
06/8/05 20:16:11 George: All you need to furnish
is food for your sale birds
06/8/05 20:16:55 George: If you buy a sales
cage they furnish it
06/8/05 20:17:09 Greg_S: ok you answered my
next question :)
06/8/05 20:17:45 Brenda: good nite all
06/8/05 20:18:04 Brenda Logs Out
06/8/05 20:18:55 Greg_S: the one 'pro' show
I've been at was only 1 day, they didnt bother
with food/water
06/8/05 20:19:31 George: Louisville is on
the ball therte
06/8/05 20:19:38 George: there
06/8/05 20:19:49 Greg_S: that is good
06/8/05 20:20:49 George: Louisvill is all
business
06/8/05 20:21:25 George: They also keep law
and order
06/8/05 20:22:17 Greg_S: that is good too
06/8/05 20:22:22 Greg_S: I think it will be
fun to go
06/8/05 20:22:43 George: It will be
06/8/05 20:23:12 George: You will enjoy the
two
06/8/05 20:23:27 George: days
06/8/05 20:23:33 Greg_S: yes I just need to
plan my trip
06/8/05 20:23:45 Greg_S: I have hotel reservations
set up
06/8/05 20:27:32 George: Time to go the phone
is ringing,another dove person
06/8/05 20:27:50 George Logs Out
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